09/10/2026
AI can automate almost everything about how work gets done. It cannot care.
That's the line separating what technology can replace and what leadership still requires. As AI moves further into how organizations operate, the leaders separating themselves aren't the ones with the best tech stack. They're the ones who can pair that technology with real transparency, real trust, and a culture where every voice, not just the loudest one, has room to contribute.
That's easier said than done at a company with 34,000 employees.
On this new episode of A Podcast About Leadership, AIIR CEO Dr. Jonathan Kirschner sits down with Amanda Poole, Chief People Officer at Bristol Myers Squibb, and Vinnie Garufi, VP of HR Innovation, Strategy and Operations at BMS, to talk about leading through change, why they built a program for introverts and quiet contributors, and what it actually takes to rethink how work gets done.
Catch the full conversation wherever you get your podcasts.
Spotify: https://hubs.ly/Q04x4VXV0
Apple Podcasts: https://hubs.ly/Q04x4VX20
YouTube: https://hubs.ly/Q04x4V_60