10/03/2025
CYCLONE ALFRED UPDATE 2
Storm Damage To Your Property?
We are already receiving calls after current Cyclone Alfred has caused mayhem throughout NSW and Qld, and we wanted to provide a few tips to help you navigate the early stages of your claim.
1. With so many trees falling during this event, we have heard of some people seeking for the damage to their property to be covered by their neighbour’s insurer as the tree or other object that has caused damage to their home came from the neighbour’s yard. Your neighbour’s insurance is for their property and therefore does not cover the damage to your property. You may feel that the damage to your property should be covered under your neighbour’s insurance policy through a liability claim, but your neighbour’s insurer will typically only accept liability if the damage was due to some form of negligence on your neighbour’s behalf. A tree, or other object, impacting on your property during a storm is not generally an event which can be deemed as arising due to negligence on your neighbour’s behalf. As such, the best course of action available to you is to lodge a claim with your own insurance company for storm damage. Whilst your insurer may possibly choose to later seek recovery from your neighbour or their insurance company if there is indeed negligence on their part, this is a separate issue to your insurer indemnifying the damage to your property.
2. Due to the scale of this event, and the length of time it is continuing to cause havoc, you may be experiencing delays to have a “make safe” undertaken at your property due to your insurer not having any local builders or trades. A “make safe” includes works such as removing the tree from where it has impacted, tarping any storm created openings to prevent further water ingress, or undertaking drying out for any internal water damage. You may be tempted to start these works yourself so that you are not impacted by these delays. Firstly, we would advise that you do not undertake any work without your insurance company’s explicit, written permission to do so. Part of your policy requirements is to allow your insurer to assess any damages and if you repair those damages before they can assess they are within their rights to deny your claim on the basis that you have prejudiced them by not allowing them to fully assess the damage to your property. It may be that your insurer agrees for you to engage your own trade to undertake “make safe” works only. Our advice is to ensure you take many photos before these works are undertaken, during (if possible) and after, along with ensuring you keep the receipts from all trades you engage. This will ensure that you have evidence of the cause of damage, to submit to your insurer if requested.
3. Notwithstanding the above point, you also have an obligation to take reasonable steps to secure your property and to minimise the chance of ongoing increase to the damage. If you need to take steps to secure your property and make it safe and watertight, you DO have the right to proceed with reasonable works and to incur reasonable costs, as long as you keep records and photos showing the property before you completed the make-safe works. The key word here is ‘reasonable’. Typically, this would mean that you shouldn’t actually remove damaged items from the property (if you have to remove them from a roof or fence to make it safe, keep the damaged item in the yard or somewhere safe until it can be assessed), and that you should limit make-safe works to temporary works rather than permanent repairs. For instance, if you have a tree branch that has poked a hole in your roof, make-safe works might include removal of the branch and tarping up the roof – NOT replacement of the damaged roof sheet. If you are unsure, seek professional advice from a suitably qualified insurance claims expert, or call your insurer to discuss the situation. And whatever you do, always ensure that you have good evidence (photos, notes, quotes and reports etc).
4. Make a habit of obtaining details (name and qualification) of EVERYONE who attends your property. This can be as simple as requesting a business card. One of the reasons for this is to verify if the person giving advice has the relevant qualifications to give that advice. For example, is your loss adjuster a qualified and licensed builder? If not, don’t take building advice from them unless you have a fully qualified builder verify the advice. Is your builder or assessor a qualified mycologist? If not, they have no right to give you advice about mould issues. We are not saying that a loss adjuster HAS TO be a builder or mycologist – they only have to have qualifications as loss adjusters. But unless they are qualified in other areas such as building or mycology, they are NOT qualified to tell you not to worry about seeking proper expert advice.
5. On a similar note, one of the best things you can do to protect yourself through this process is to understand, and use, contemporaneous notes. Contemporaneous simply means “at the same time”, and in respect to a note, it means that the note was made during or immediately following a conversation or set of events that the note refers to. For a note to be considered “contemporaneous”, it must be made at the time, or as soon as possible after the time that the incident occurred. For instance, if an assessor came to your house today, and it was not practical to record the assessment, you could sit down as soon as the assessor leaves the property and make notes about that assessment. If it could be proven that those notes were written immediately after the assessment, they would be considered “contemporaneous”, and would therefore hold more weight than a later report or file note that may be made by the assessor to the insurance company days or weeks after the event (particularly if that assessor had completed 20 site visits between yours and completing their report).
6. Additionally, we would recommend you never arrange anything or agree to anything in a phone call. You really need a paper trail (email is fine) for everything. If you MUST do something by phone, or during a face-to-face meeting, always follow that meeting or phone call up with an email as soon as possible. In the email, confirm what was discussed, what each party agreed to and what the timeframes were for those agreements. For instance, you might email an insurer straight after a phone conversation, thanking them for speaking with you, and noting, “As discussed in our phone call today, you advised that…(insert details of what they said), and I advised you that…(insert details of what you said). Confirm timeframes (eg. “You advised that your remediation company would contact me within the next 48 hours”, or whatever they told you). If you are using emails AND contemporaneous notes in your own diary or notebook, refer to your email in the contemporaneous note. For instance, “Met with ### assessor today, discussed (add details of discussion). Once assessment was finished, sent email to ### insurance company (and then cut & paste the email to your note, or attach a printed copy if you are hand-writing notes). These are all excellent ways to ensure that every meeting is accurately reported and outlined, and that later disputes can be properly resolved by all parties being given the correct facts of anything that may have been agreed to in those previous phone calls or meetings.
7. Don’t make the mistake of thinking that your insurance company is in business for you – they are in business to make a profit, and their decisions will likely reflect their own interests ahead of yours. If your interests and their interests are the same, you usually won’t have a problem. But if your interests are not the same as their interests, they will act in their own interests in our experience.
8. YOU are the manager of your claim – NOT your insurance company, and not your loss adjuster. You have the right to dictate terms, and to expect that your service providers (both your insurance claims department, and the service providers they appoint) are acting to fulfil the terms of your insurance contract. Never make the mistake of meekly rolling over and accepting whatever you are told. As part of this, please be aware that you have the right to receive EVERY report, scope of works etc, including make-safe works, remediation/restoration/mould inspection reports, assessor’s reports, loss adjuster’s reports etc that are used in the assessment and settlement of the claim. Do not accept “no” for an answer, as the General Insurance Code of Practice compels an insurer to provide you with every report and document that is used to assess or settle your claim. On this, you should note however that the service provider themselves (loss adjuster, builder etc) won’t provide you with any report, you need to request it directly from your insurer.
9. Lastly, you have the right to be satisfied with your scope of works/repair quote BEFORE you agree to sign anything. Don’t ever be fooled by someone telling you to “just sign it and we will work out the issues during the repair as variations”. Sure, they MIGHT accept variations during the repair process, but if you signed the scope as is, you are legally agreeing that it is complete, and fair & reasonable, so if they reject the variations down the track you can’t really do much about that. Even if getting the scope right delays your claim, you are better off getting it right before you sign anything.
If you are in the unfortunate situation of having a damaged property or motor vehicle from the recent storms, we genuinely hope that your insurer is doing the right thing, and that your claim assessment process will be relatively painless for you. But if it is not, or if you are having concerns about the process, feel free to contact us at [email protected] for a free, no-obligation discussion about your circumstances and what you can do to solve your claim.
(Photo sourced from ABC News)