14/09/2026
🎙️ NEW PODCAST CONVERSATION
What happens when dog sport stops feeling like fun and starts feeling like pressure?
I was recently invited back onto Nathan Dunleavy The Pet Business Wellbeing Mentor Podcast for a second conversation, this time to talk about my new book:
📖 The Dark Side of Dog Agility: Navigating Neurodivergence in a Sport Rooted in Success
Although agility is at the heart of the book, our conversation went much wider.
We talked about neurodivergence, pressure and perfectionism, masking in training environments, emotional safety, competition and success, and the importance of considering both ends of the lead.
We also explored what happens when we focus so heavily on the dog’s performance that we forget about the human alongside them, and why creating more understanding, accessible education and genuinely inclusive spaces matters.
If you’ve ever felt like you don’t quite fit the environment you’re training in, or wondered why something that should be enjoyable has started to feel overwhelming, this conversation may give you some things to think about.
You can find this episode, my previous conversation with Nathan, and my other podcast and media appearances on my https://dogsanddivergentminds.com/speaking-media/
🎧 Listen to the conversation:
Search for The Pet Business Wellbeing Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts.
📚 Intrigued by the book? You can find The Dark Side of Dog Agility: Navigating Neurodivergence in a Sport Rooted in Success on Amazon — simply search for the title.
📖 Prefer to read? Nathan has also created a written version of our conversation.
🔗 Want clickable links? Head over to my personal Facebook profile, where I’ve put all the episode links, the written version and the book link together in one place. (Facebook doesn't seem to like links in comments on my business page anymore!)
Thank you, Nathan, for inviting me back, it was a great conversation. 😊