02/03/2026
Series 4, Episode 1 of the Delta Learning Podcast is live and this clip captures one of the biggest truths in modern learning.
“I was really dreading that… but it was the best bit of the whole thing.”
In this conversation, Phil Allen, Client Director at The Experience Works (formerly Role Play UK), joins Steve to explore why experiential learning creates such a powerful, and sometimes emotional, shift in behaviour.
We discuss:
➡️ Why “role play” was never the full story and how the move to experience changes everything
➡️ The real reason learners feel anxiety before practice-based sessions
➡️ How emotion and memory points help learning stick
➡️ Why getting people to engage is often the hardest part, but where the biggest impact sits
➡️ The danger of treating learning as an event rather than a sustained process
There’s a powerful parallel in this clip: like going to the gym for the first time, the hardest step is showing up, but once people experience the value, they keep coming back.
This episode is part of a bigger shift from learning as content delivery → to learning as lived experience.
With a career spanning senior roles at PA Consulting and Travis Perkins, Phil brings both strategic insight and real delivery experience to the discussion and this is just the start of our growing association with Experience Works, and we will be sharing more over the coming weeks.
If your focus is:
Leadership development, sales capability, commercial confidence and turning learning into measurable performance - this episode is for you.
Listen now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tERYvRVJCRs
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Steve Bussey | Delta Learning
Phil Allen | The Experience Works