09/10/2026
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What does it take to stay resilient when your career takes you across countries, industries, and leadership roles? And why does being fearless enough to ask questions matter in leadership?
In Episode 10, Dona Amelia sits down with Fred Chan, President Director & Chief Executive Officer at Zurich Topas Life, to explore his leadership journey, financial resilience, and the importance of financial literacy in Indonesia.
Fred shares his journey from becoming an actuary in Australia to working across Hong Kong and Indonesia, including his experience as CFO before stepping into his current CEO role.
The conversation also explores Indonesiaโs low life insurance pe*******on, common misconceptions about insurance, and the importance of financial education in helping people make better long-term decisions.
At the heart of the conversation is Fredโs perspective on resilience: turning setbacks into learning opportunities and preparing for what comes next.
In this episode, youโll discover:
- Why leaders should be fearless and ask more questions
- How setbacks can become preparation for future opportunities
- The importance of financial literacy in building financial resilience
- Common misconceptions about life insurance
- How leaders can stay curious and keep learning
๐๏ธ Release Date: Friday, 9 October 2026 | 2 PM Jakarta Time
Watch & listen to the full episode on our channels.
๐บ YouTube:
- https://youtu.be/K0XwtNdTi4w
- https://youtu.be/eXZhb2skKGI
๐ง Spotify:
- https://open.spotify.com/episode/2M1NnUGpTp0MuL0T4brqg3?si=YQycpI4vSoqKzd_dDZGkdg
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