06/17/2026
What happens when success suddenly stops working?
In this episode of The Antifragility Reframe Podcast, Dr. Frank L. Douglas sits down with entrepreneur and author Rich Ashton to discuss a journey marked by business setbacks, leadership challenges, personal transformation, and renewed purpose.
After enjoying early success in real estate and entrepreneurship, Rich faced what seemed like the perfect storm: a struggling business acquisition, an economic downturn, and a leadership style that no longer served him or his team. Rather than allowing failure to define him, he reframed his perspective, learned from others, strengthened his relationships, and rediscovered his faith.
Rich shares how these experiences transformed him from an authoritarian leader into someone focused on listening, empowering others, and developing future leaders. His story is a powerful example of antifragility—using adversity not just to recover, but to grow stronger.
Whether you're a business owner, aspiring leader, or someone navigating a difficult season, this conversation offers practical insights on resilience, leadership development, and long-term growth.