The Pocket CMO

The Pocket CMO I created The Pocket CMO to help your brand identify and develop customer centric growth strategies

ROXI. Rock on.
10/08/2025

ROXI. Rock on.

When I founded The Pocket CMO®, my goal was simple: to help organizations navigate the intersection of Marketing and Customer Experience Strategy and Management. CX was still nascent - a buzzword if you will.

Very excited to be speaking to this group about Customer Experience Strategy and Management, along with some esteemed co...
03/14/2024

Very excited to be speaking to this group about Customer Experience Strategy and Management, along with some esteemed colleagues who will be giving informative presentations on Marketing, Sales, and FInance.

Join leaders from mid-size companies for a presentation about growth challenges and opportunities during unpredictable market conditions.

Date: Thursday, April 4, 2024
Time: 8 AM TO 10 AM
Location: North San Diego Business Chamber, 10975 Rancho Bernardo Road, #104
Register today: https://sandiegocollective.com/events/

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08/29/2022

What my clients are saying about The Pocket CMO:

"For many years I found myself struggling with clearly identifying what the true mission, vision, and positioning statement was for my company. My inability to create a clear and cohesive vision was not from a lack of trying as I had spent time with team members and consultants to achieve this goal. It wasn’t until I was introduced to Greg in February of 2021 when all the pieces started to fall into place.
From day one, Greg took a highly proactive role in learning, dissecting, and understanding the challenges we were currently facing. He was also able to quickly understand where we were heading as a business. It became quite evident that Greg’s decades of experience served as an incredible weapon of value as the processes he implemented cut through the noise and efficiently brought forward the solutions we had struggled to solve for so long. In addition, his ability to accomplish difficult challenges that were hyper-specific to our business without requiring a major time investment on my side was not only critical but, it spoke volumes about the deep level of knowledge he possesses.
I brought Greg in to help with my mission, vision, and positioning as part of the overarching strategy to help my company become an Elite HubSpot Partner. With his help not only did we reach that goal (a top 40 HS Global Partner), however, we did it in record time (less than 10 months post working with Greg).
I am incredibly impressed with Greg and could not recommend him more. I look forward to my continued relationship with him as a strategic expert, mentor, and confidant."
CEO of a Digital Marketing Agency, San Diego, CA.

The growth of Customer Experience.
08/10/2021

The growth of Customer Experience.

Today, customer experience is a powerhouse driving growth and revenue at companies across the world. As the discipline has grown, so too has the number of people working in the field and its importance and credibility.

08/09/2021

What my clients are saying...

Greg "overdeliver" Chapman helped us in the development of a go-to-market strategy for our technology services venture The GTM strategy included the development of personas, buyer's journey mapping, market segmentation, SWOT, and more. Greg neatly delivered everything that he scoped, in a timely manner, and with the utmost care for attention to detail and key insights. Our GTM strategy is a critical component of our growth. I'm pleased to have been able to entrust the development of the strategy with Greg Chapman and would highly recommend him for fractional CMO services.

Gregg Anderson
CEO, Origin 63 | Smart B2B Technology Solutions for Growing Brands | HubSpot Platinum Solutions Partner | Startup Investor @ Interlock Capital
August 9, 2021, Gregg was a client of Greg’s

Wow! I'm very honored, and very flattered to receive this endorsement on LinkedIn from such a prominent business leader ...
07/20/2021

Wow! I'm very honored, and very flattered to receive this endorsement on LinkedIn from such a prominent business leader as Doug - thank you, Doug!!

Very honored to be among this esteemed group and share my thoughts about the customer experience.
04/14/2021

Very honored to be among this esteemed group and share my thoughts about the customer experience.

In this episode, we’re doubling down on what it takes to make not just good customer experiences, but great ones. How your brand can move from merely satisfying customers to delighting them. And how you can create experiences that aren’t just pleasant, but truly remarkable. To unpack the myriad ...

My name is Greg Chapman. I'm the founder and CEO of The Pocket CMO. My firm helps CMOs and CEOs with the Customer Experi...
10/29/2020

My name is Greg Chapman. I'm the founder and CEO of The Pocket CMO. My firm helps CMOs and CEOs with the Customer Experience imperative - Customer Experience strategy, Customer Experience management, and methodologies to compete in today's Experience economy. That's what I do.

In this blog post, I’ll be talking about the intersection of Customer Experience, marketing, and the CMOs role, and how that shakes out in today's Experience economy.

Let's start with the role of the CMO and marketing in general. An interesting “hiring event” occurred over this year as Walmart hired a new CMO. Traditionally the CMO, and especially in a company like Walmart, reports to the CEO. Argue with me here, but that comment is based on “tradition”. CMO has always been a C - Suite role and it reported to the CEO. The new CMO at Walmart reports to the CCO, the Chief Customer Officer. I think that's a huge deal, but more importantly, it shows the sea-change that's happening in the marketing industry around the merging of Customer Experience with “traditional” and “digital” marketing.

Right?

The marketing department “used to be” charged with generating demand - filling the funnel through the creation of brand value and communicating that value message to target audiences. Traditional marketing strategies and tactics have moved over to digital, of course, but now it's about personalized experiences.
“Marketing” has traditionally been the voice of the customer internally to the company. That's even more important now because understanding the Experience that the customer expects from the marketing messaging and the branding positioning, the differentiated value proposition, is how you compete on Customer Experience. And that's why if you're still thinking about marketing as just demand generation…you're stuck in old ways and you need to intersect that with Customer Experience strategy.

There are two ways, two directions you can go here. And this is the conundrum, if you will, with the CMO position. CMO…and I've been both a CMO and a CXO…is a big job. It's a big job being a Chief Marketing Officer for any size company. It doesn't matter 5 million, 50 million or 5 billion, being a chief marketing officer is a big job. Then the CEO or the board, or both come to the CMO and ask for a CX strategy. We’re all hearing a lot, reading a lot, and seeing the movement to competing on Customer Experience. You're the representative of the customer within the organization MR/MS CMO, and you now have Customer Experience. That's the common scenario - the CMO has a full-time job, and they just got another full-time job, which is CXO.

That's a difficult thing because both are full-time jobs. The creation of the CXO role is designed to take on that CX based competitive imperative in any size company. And the important thing to break down is getting it to work cross-functionally in the organization. The biggest threat to delivering a great Customer Experience in any size company is siloed behavior. But we all have been brought up through business school and through our early career experiences around business disciplines, right? You're a finance major, you're a marketing major, you're an operations and logistics major. We're brought up in silos. And I don't mean to say that negatively - it's the way of the world, but what ends up happening is companies get structured around operational performance and metrics.

You have a leadership team meeting, and the COO reads from a series of operational metrics. “Hey, we're doing great. Here's my operational metrics. Here's my scorecard. Boom, I'm nailing everything…” Let's move over to HR. “Well, according to our last employee survey, we're doing great. And HR is meeting their scorecard metric objectives on turnover…” Let's move over to marketing. “Well, we're filling the funnel with demand appropriately and moving them through to conversion or CRO is doing well...” Everybody's scorecards are doing great, except for one thing, the Net Promoter Score of the company is mediocre. Well, why isn't all this great internal discipline scoring on the internal scorecard manifesting itself in a better Customer Experience? Better loyalty? Lower customer churn? Lower revenue churn? Lower Customer Service expense? Better word-of-mouth referral?

I’m being a little elementary and a lot sarcastic here, but the role of Chief Customer Experience officer is to navigate the organization horizontally and bring all of this together to impact the Customer Lifetime Value results. The CXO job is ultimately to move the needle for affinity, loyalty, retention, referral, and customer lifetime value.
Back to the Walmart organizational structure. Given the reporting relationship, what are the charters of the respective roles – CCO versus CMO? If “Customer Experience” is defined as the ‘visceral’ and ‘palpable’ sum of all the interactions a brand has with consumers – the messages, touchpoints, transactions and trials, and the memories they create, then…

The CCO/CXO’s Role: Work cross-functionally to embed behaviors and actions that align siloed organizations in focusing on customer expectations and delivering against them, creating the memories and relationships that build the brand.

The CMO’s Role: Promote the Experience and grow customer loyalty and advocacy by building customer-centric, personalized, omnichannel campaigns, and experiences.

Like Finance, Marketing, Operations, Human Resources, or Information Technology, Customer Experience is a business discipline. I want to help CMO’s understand the principles of Customer Experience and the difference between CX Strategy and CX Management and be conversant in both. CMO’s, CCO’s, CXO’s and CEO’s need to help their business prepare for the “new normal” and understand how to use CX based insights to do that. Customer Experience has taken on a new definition during the crisis. Customer Experience leaders must innovate during this crisis and anticipate how customers will change their habits. CX Leaders will build stronger relationships that will last beyond the crisis’s passing.

And the title – CMO, CCO, CXO, COO, and yes even CEO, doesn’t matter. We all represent the customer, and the experience they will have with our brand and the memories we will create together.

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