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Tianna Miller has been fighting for her health since second grade, when she realized she was bigger than her classmates ...
08/20/2026

Tianna Miller has been fighting for her health since second grade, when she realized she was bigger than her classmates and spent picture day trying to suck in her stomach.
She taught herself fitness from a Jane Fonda VHS tape at age 7. She was introduced to line dancing at a babysitter's house for $5 a night. And she has spent her entire career helping people feel comfortable and confident in their own skin.
In Episode 42 of The Refinery Podcast, Trainer Tiana shares her journey from that second-grade classroom to competing in natural bikini competitions, teaching line dancing multiple nights a week, choreographing dances performed internationally, and building a personal training practice built entirely on meeting people where they are.
No judgment. No shame. One phone call away. And you are worth the work.
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Dr. Larry Kuhn grew up on a dairy farm in Indiana.At 14, his father taught him to plow a straight furrow by fixing his e...
08/19/2026

Dr. Larry Kuhn grew up on a dairy farm in Indiana.
At 14, his father taught him to plow a straight furrow by fixing his eyes on a distant tree, not on the ground in front of him. He didn't know it then, but that lesson would become the foundation of everything he does.
In Episode 41 of The Refinery Podcast, Dr. Larry, a licensed clinical psychologist and founder of Aspire View, shares how he spent his first 40 years in finance and operations before enrolling in a graduate psychology program and eventually building one of the most thoughtful organizational consulting practices I've encountered.
He talks about his multi-systemic lens, why adaptive resilience is different from performative resilience, how AI should serve human curiosity rather than replace it, and why the most important thing any leader can do is stay genuinely curious about the people they lead.
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The strengths that made you successful in your career may be the exact things damaging your closest relationships.That's...
08/18/2026

The strengths that made you successful in your career may be the exact things damaging your closest relationships.
That's the insight at the heart of Russell Betts' work, and it came from his own marriage nearly falling apart during his wife's menopause years, not from lack of love, but from a complete lack of awareness.
In Episode 40 of The Refinery Podcast, Russell, a former CPA, COO, and chief operating officer at Make-A-Wish, shares how his systems-thinking background eventually led him to the field of relational intelligence, and why the patterns that run our relationships are almost always invisible until someone helps us see them.
His book When Strength Stops Working is the first in a four-book series. His company Connected Through Change helps individuals, couples, and organizations recognize the transitions they're in, and navigate them with intention rather than default.
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Linda Wilson has survived bankruptcy, five open-heart surgeries, a failed stem cell transplant, 18 months of depression,...
08/17/2026

Linda Wilson has survived bankruptcy, five open-heart surgeries, a failed stem cell transplant, 18 months of depression, the death of her husband, and the death of her mother.
And she still didn't quit.
In Episode 39 of The Refinery Podcast, Linda shares the story behind her book, On Resilience: When You're Too Effing Stupid to Quit, and the three pillars she has identified through lived experience: a thick skin, compassion, and patience/faith.
She is also launching a program to train Emotional Support Specialists, people who support caregivers, hospital volunteers, and others who pour out constantly and need someone to pour back in.
This is one of the most honest conversations about resilience I've ever had. Linda doesn't perform strength. She's earned it.
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50% of students in Greenville, SC are not reading at grade level.And it's not because they can't learn. It's largely bec...
08/14/2026

50% of students in Greenville, SC are not reading at grade level.
And it's not because they can't learn. It's largely because they haven't been taught correctly.
Dr. Gail Everett has spent her life fixing that, one child at a time.
In Episode 38 of The Refinery Podcast, Gail shares the phonological awareness-based method that brings struggling readers up one grade level per 10–15 hours of instruction, with a success rate above 90%. She talks about the Mississippi Miracle, why half her students are simply victims of poor instruction, and why she still teaches at 74 because watching a child claim a word as their own never gets old.
She is urgently seeking someone to carry this mission forward. If that might be you, listen to this episode first.
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Seth Drugatz was the smart kid in third grade who got sent to play video games while everyone else studied.And he learne...
08/13/2026

Seth Drugatz was the smart kid in third grade who got sent to play video games while everyone else studied.
And he learned very quickly that being exceptional made him a target.
So he spent the next two decades dimming his light.
In Episode 37 of The Refinery Podcast, Seth, an ontological coach based in Greenville, SC, explains what ontological coaching actually is, why the lenses we look through silently shape our results, and how he helps people he calls "suppressed greatness" finally let themselves loose.
He talks about human design, energy management, the invisible rule sets that keep us doing the same things, and why the most important question anyone can ask is: "What do I really want if there were no rules?"
If you know deep down that there's something more powerful inside you than what's currently showing up, this episode is for you.
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Dean Houdeshell spent 30 years as a mechanical engineer.He started plant operations from scratch. He doubled revenue in ...
08/12/2026

Dean Houdeshell spent 30 years as a mechanical engineer.
He started plant operations from scratch. He doubled revenue in turnaround situations. He became a director of engineering.
And then one day, a supervisor called him over to show him that the team had solved a problem — without him. And something clicked.
In Episode 36 of The Refinery Podcast, Dean shares how that moment launched a decades-long pursuit of understanding what it really means to develop people — not just train them.
He joined the John Maxwell Team, trained with Empowered Living, and launched Innovative Coaching Strategies to help companies move from reactive firefighting to strategic growth. His conviction: the best leaders give their teams a sandbox to play in — not a script to follow.
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Ron Cooper flew over 300 combat missions in Vietnam in the F-4 Phantom.He flew through walls of anti-aircraft fire. He p...
08/11/2026

Ron Cooper flew over 300 combat missions in Vietnam in the F-4 Phantom.
He flew through walls of anti-aircraft fire. He participated in a 23-day, 119-sortie rescue operation for a single downed pilot, because no person gets left behind.
Marty waited at home with their infant daughter, recording cassette tapes and sending them through the mail because there were no phone calls.
In Episode 35 of The Refinery Podcast, Ron and Marty share 58 years of marriage, military service, and the leadership framework they've built together through The Cooper Culture, drawing directly on the lessons of mission clarity, team cohesion, and the kind of alignment that only comes when you fix your eyes on something outside yourself.
Ron's story of learning to plow a straight furrow at age 14 is one of the best leadership metaphors I've ever heard. This conversation is a gift.
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Josh Kelly was two weeks into launching his first business when he rear-ended an 18-wheeler at 65 mph.Fractured neck. Br...
08/10/2026

Josh Kelly was two weeks into launching his first business when he rear-ended an 18-wheeler at 65 mph.
Fractured neck. Brain injury. Multiple disc damage. A four-year recovery.
Doctors told him he would never be the same. He would never work the same. He would never golf again.
In Episode 34 of The Refinery Podcast, Josh shares how he refused that prognosis , quit his medications, switched to an all-organic diet, lost 100 pounds through food alone, and eventually walked back onto a golf course and proved every prediction wrong.
He launched Ecoblast Pressure Washing in February 2024, built it around eco-friendly products, and in two years has grown to serve residential, commercial, and industrial clients across South Carolina and western NC.
His message is simple: nothing can overcome what's between your two ears. You've got this.
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Robert Wall served in the US Air Force during Desert Storm. He built computers in his dorm room. He worked in mechanical...
08/07/2026

Robert Wall served in the US Air Force during Desert Storm. He built computers in his dorm room. He worked in mechanical engineering, robotics, manufacturing, and banking, where he became VP of Business Development not because of a finance degree, but because someone recognized he was a super-connector.
In Episode 33 of The Refinery Podcast, Robert shares the through-line of all of it: you are your greatest asset. Not your product. Not your service. Not your resume. You.
He talks about personal branding as alignment, how you show up, what you value, and how others experience you, and why most people are building their business on everything except the most important foundation.
He was recently inducted as a lifetime member of the International Association of Top Professionals. And he believes that when you get aligned, the right people find you.
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