09/01/2026
IT’S LIVE! And I got to be the FIRST video guest on Leadership Clearly!
Julie Wagner and I had such a great conversation about money, faith, fear—and what happens when following what you believe is right comes with a very real financial cost.
We talked about why *The Morality of Money* is NOT another budgeting book, why I believe debt can be a tool rather than something to fear, and what fear can actually cost us in dollars.
But we also went much deeper than money.
We talked about faith. Reinvention. Trusting the Flow. And what it looks like to keep moving forward when you're still IN the story—not safely looking back at it.
Julie titled the episode:
**The Faith That Cost Her Everything | Renée Bryan on The Morality of Money**
And because this is Leadership Clearly's very first VIDEO episode, you can watch our whole conversation!
Watch here:
https://youtu.be/SYsiWLhTMgc
Thank you, Julie Wagner and Leadership Clearly, for such a thoughtful, honest conversation—and for letting me be your video guinea pig. :)
Renée Bryan spent 35 years in financial services training advisors ...